False Doctrine Of Harold Weitzs Comments To End-Time False Prophet
Posted by: Tom (Discerning the World) | On this date: February 12th, 2015 |
12 comments to End-time False ProphetAnd Their Followers
FaanOosthuizenThere are other very important Biblical tests for false prophets.1. They preach alone whereas Paul encouraged all to desire and encouraged all to prophesy 1Cor 142. They preach that holiness in this life is impossible. The Bible says such people are opposing GOD 1Thess 4:7-8 and Tim 6:3-5 says they are proud, knowing nothing, is sick concerning doubts and arguments, from which comes envy, strife, evil speakings, evil suspicions, meddling, of men whose minds have been corrupted and deprived of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness.3. they preach we will all sin until death. Jesus and John said he who sins is a slave of sin and of the devil4. They are being served and the sheep takes care of them. Jesus commanded the leaders should serve. Matt 20 The true shepherd cares for his sheep ÔÇô as Paul and Jesus did.5. They get into the pulpit by their training and education, or appointment, or by their charisma and preaching alone to draw people to themselves. God hides spiritual wisdom from the learned, and high and important and proud. True prophets are lowly and humble, knowing training and knowledge are dross and they are equipped by God by His gifts and calling.6. They receive a salary to preach or income from preaching.
Thomas Lessing (Watch and Pray / Waak en Bid)FaanOosthuizen wrote:
3. they preach we will all sin until death. Jesus and John said he who sins is a slave of sin and of the devil
Do you believe we become sinless after salvation?
Indeed, there are many other things that identify false prophets but I wanted to focus on the lie that all Christians should prosper in all dimensions of their life whilst the Bible says that suffering is part and parcel of their lives.
WernerThis is actually so funny to listen to and at the same time so sad. When you know God's truth and you listen to the rubbish false prophets preach, you cannot do anything else but either laugh or cry.
Weitsz the false prophet is the "spiritual father" of the false prophet Marc Bredenkamp. What a sad bunch, and there are so many following them and so little exposing them!
God be with us!
Randomperson6. They receive a salary to preach or income from preaching ÔÇô See more at:http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2015/02/12/end-time-false-prophets-followers/#sthash.JHq2MGTN.duf
I'm curious, would anyone (or most people) preach/enter full time ministry for free? Even the church that I'm currently attending receives minimal income (via tithes) and travels the world to preach (some costs are covered)
Deborah (Discerning the World)Hi Werner
Yes I have been so meaning to do an article on Marc Bredenkamp and that young guy Leon du Preez. I know I have promised you a few times, but I keep getting side tracked.
Tom, maybe you can look into him as well ÔÇô bad news.
Thomas Lessing (Watch and Pray / Waak en Bid)Randomperson
There's a big difference between receiving an income from church members to support the pastor and his family and preaching a prosperity gospel that God will increase your own income tenfold/hundredfold when you give to the church/pastor sacrificially. The latter, to my mind, is money laundering.
Paul said:
Or did I commit a sin in humbling myself so that you might be exalted, because I preached God's gospel to you free of charge? I robbed other churches by accepting support from them in order to serve you. And when I was with you and was in need, I did not burden anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied my need. So I refrained and will refrain from burdening you in any way. (2 Co 11:7-9)
Occasionally Paul accepted unsolicited support from churches but he did so with an uneasy heart (Phil. 4:10-13), calling it "robbery" to take from poor people. He never wanted to be a financial burden to them. Jesus said freely you have received, freely give." In any case, God promised that He will never leave or forsake his children.
Let your character or moral disposition be free from love of money [including greed, avarice, lust, and craving for earthly possessions] and be satisfied with your present [circumstances and with what you have]; for He [God] Himself has said, I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor leave you without support. [I will] not, [I will] not, [I will] not in any degree leave you helpless nor forsake nor let [you] down relax (My hold on you)! [Assuredly not!] (Hebr 13:5).
WernerHi Deborah, I understand and I guess that will be a large piece of work! As I have been duped into following Marc's babbling as a young believer, I know thousands of others are led astray by his false teachings and doctrines.
A little side note, I have mentioned it before. When I questioned him about where he received his Doctorate degree, he said that some College gave it to him based on his so called incredible knowledge of the Greek and Hebrew language. This was laughable for two reasons, no proper Accredited Christian College/University will issues you a Doctorate based on your so called self taught knowledge, and the only place Marc got this super natural knowledge from was him using his NKJV Bible, anyone can do this.
Next, I pressed his office for a name of the College as he would not answer me personally, although he did later as his right hand boy could not answer my questions anymore, anyhow the name he gave me was nowhere to be found on the internet. The closest ministry/College I did find was unaccredited local church College somewhere in a small town in the USA. Need I say anymore.oh how preachers love their titles, like the Pharisees they want to be recognized in the market places, and be called upon on their deeds and titles! What a shame!
Lastly, one of two or so links on Marc's website belongs to , do I need to say anymore? This man has been exposed countless of times before: Kim Clement, see the bottom on Marc's website: http://www.destiny.co.za/
http://www.discerningtheworld.com/2010/08/01/kim-clement-admits-he-is-a-false-prophet/
http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac14.htm
http://www.forgottenword.org/clement.html
When I took him on about an article/prophesy he wrote/received on Hollywood and how God will use and take over Hollywood for the good, He deleted all my comments on his site and closed the comment box as he could not argue his point biblical point nor could he refute my comments. This is after countless sound ministries have exposed the recent and previous godless movies people including Marc claiming to be Biblical and used of God. And he claims he is not a dominionist kingdom now??http://www.marcbredenkamp.com/2014/02/prophecy-in-the-news-hollywood-is-mine/
One can go on and on, even his latest Holy Spirit/Fire Baptism Conference, come on, where is this found in Scripture? http://www.destiny.co.za/sermons/holy-spirit-fire-conference-part-1-3/
I will be waiting in anticipation Deborah!
Take your time!
Janice LeaderGood morning. I am telling you of a completely incredible and true personal traumatic experience, in the hope that ANYONE who has a similar experience, will know that it is from Satan. I fear for anyone who suffers from this experience, even if I can help only one person, I need to do this for my GOD in the name of His Son, Jesus Christ, my salvation. During November 2014 thru February 9th? 2015, I was subjected to dreams which included a man's voice in my head leading me to believe he was my God. While being led to read Revelations, through an incredible pulling in my heart, I was drawn to the Letter to the Philadelphia Church, which led me to research the history of that church (I was curious that Our Creator would write an "end times" letter to a church that currently does not exist in these "end times", it is part of my investigative nature I suppose). This curiosity led me to discover a "prophetess" from the 1600's named Jane Leade (admittedly the fact that her name was almost my own was shocking!) and her claim was that Our Lord was speaking to her during the later half of the 1600's and she spent countless hours with her friends who wrote everything she was being "told" because the thoughts came so fast from "Our Lord". As I discovered her "works" I spent continuous hours reading them, as they were actually like an instruction book for the dreams I was receiving! It was truly scary but I felt compelled to read most of what seemed relevant to me. LONG story short, I ended up understanding that I needed to go to Israelso I could be DECAPITATEDto fight in the battle with Jesus Christ. In one dream, I saw a vision of myself looking at armed military personnel as they opened the doors of the prisoner transport van I was in back of, in another dream, as the time was getting closer for me to buy a plane ticket, I was given contact information and shown a "photo ID" type picture of a man who was going to meet me at the airport in another dream, and the most incredible dreamwas a vision which lingered in front of me for 1 hour and 15 minuteswhile I actually recorded it into my cellphoneand it was an "End Times" prophesythat I was led to believe that I had to share (I regrettably started to) but quickly sent follow up apologies after being enlightened by my true LORD! In this planning to be beheaded, I cashed in my retirement savings,(I am 50) explained to my young adult daughters how to use the money, started pricing airline tickets to Jerusalem, wrote goodbye notes to the family members that had no clue I was planning this, because I did not know WHEN it was going to happen, and on the day that I explained to my girls, my mother (who has already lost 2 sons) my husband (who was away in Venezuela for 6 weeks and was told over the phone), they made one last ditch effort to try and stop me! Thank you LORD! I stopped my plans (but only after I told them it was no use, I had to do this for GOD), however, the thought was still stirring in my head to go because I would certainly do that for God! I was in tears begging Him to forgive me but asking Him to find someone else. (My loving daughter's request). The FINAL result, was through prayer, prayer, prayer and direction from the Bible, did I find that THERE WILL BE NO MORE PROPHETS after John the Baptist, (so obviously this Jane Leade is Mis-Leading) and incredibly enough, the "prophetic end-time letter" I received in that dream, mentions Jane Leade as being the daughter of Melchizedek and "she has already been given the key to the New Jerusalem Cityetc.) Bringing me back to "earth" was Jesus Christ WARNING that "Many will come to you saying "I am the Christdo NOT follow them, my children". This was a truly GLORIOUS reminder! Another answer I discovered at the "last minute" was understanding that this, being voluntary (yet involuntary) would mean that I was going to be sacrificed TO SATAN and NOT to/for my incredible Father in heaven! I was truly "out of it" during this time. This is completely out of character for me but this is how BAD this demon gets into your thoughts. If you have been filled with the Holy Spirit, saved in Jesus Christ, you are truly subjected to Satan trying his dark ways in you. Be AWAKE! I will leave an email if anyone wishes to contact me directly. My husband, upon coming home, explained how upset he was because his SISTER had a similar experience and she actually went to foreign country with no belongings (as I was instructed) and she was kidnapped, held in a cell for two months with only a coffee can to use as a bathroom but after 2 months found escape when her cell door was left unlocked! WHAT! I could NOT believe that my OWN husband had such a thing happen in his family. He was extremely worried when I told him I may not be home when he got back. If you are curious about me, I have a Facebook page that I actually started posting outrageous things on, which freaked my friends out to the point where I told them I had to leave FB. It is still up, I forget my sign on but I think you can see things on there which become obviously radical and scary.I THANK YOU, my merciful FATHER in heaven and my Savior Jesus Christ, for allowing me to be saved, yet again. I Please feel free to contact me at [Email removed]May God bless you all and keep you safe, in the name of Jesus Christ.Janice LeaderPlease feel free to share this story because I know that I need to get this message out, and I feel that it was put upon me to struggle with this, exactly so I could share it! Your site is my first of many to come.Thank you!
LanceLegalism seems to play a big part in our Church today, it started with Peter on circumcision. Now it's what bible your reading, or who you listen to. "Pre, Post or mid or "Your going to worship the anti-christ.""You have to be perfect like Jesus is." The Church replaced Israel"
WE ARE ALL WRONG not in everything, but we all miss the mark, if not, Jesus wasn't needed.
Although there are aspects of the "New Age Church" we need to be aware of. Rest your head in the Word of God, if you find a teacher that is helpful and proclaims Jesus died for our sins, look into the matter, and stay away from RELIGION.
Use the Bible to compass any teachings, use the Bible(KVJ) to compass the Bible, find out if the KVJ uses wrong wording in places, it does.Does the teacher you listen to, use a Bible? All the time?
Is it wrong to spend money on teachings? NOIn a perfect world, it's not, we could receive the word of God on every street corner.If someone devotes their life to God, and is a sound teacher(check into the matter) than good for them.We are finding out so many great testimonies about God, and his love for us. We are truly living in the best of times and the worst of times.
Holman Christian Standard Bible:Romans 14:22
Do you have a conviction? Keep it to yourself before God. The man who does not condemn himself by what he approves is blessed.
WOW DOES THAT PINCH OR WHAT!
Deborah (Discerning the World)Dear Janice
Your story is shocking. But I am happy you are coming to the know the truth. I have a question for you though, you say:
>> This was a truly GLORIOUS reminder! Another answer I discovered at the "last minute" was understanding that this, being voluntary (yet involuntary) would mean that I was going to be sacrificed TO SATAN and NOT to/for my incredible Father in heaven!
What do you mean by this? "I was going to be sacrificed TO SATAN? and NOT to/for my incredible Father in heaven"
Tom (Discerning the World)Lance wrote,
WE ARE ALL WRONG not in everything, but we all miss the mark, if not, Jesus wasn't needed.
"Missing the mark" in biblical language means to be unsaved. However, the unsaved can learn the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth when they get saved. How do I know?
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. (Joh 16:13)
Therefore, there is no excuse whatsoever for you to say "WE ARE ALL WRONG . . ." In efect, you are saying. Harold Weitsz is wrong when he says the Bride of Christ will suffer no more, but so what, we are all wrong in some ways. So, let's just accept what he says and be danmed with the rest."
I really don't think your statement about Romans 14:22 is correct. Please read the "conviction" or "faith" we ought to have before God and not others in its proper context and you will understand what it means. The context here concerns meats and drinks. Some Christians believe it is OK to eat anything; some Christians don't. So, what do we do when we dine with our Christian brothers and sister and one says to you, "Lance, don't eat that because of such and such and so and so. Out of pure love for your brother or sister and because you don't want to offend him or her because Christ also died for them, you will refrain from eating it.
By the way, what does this article on false teachers have in common with Romans 14:22.Me thinks ÔÇô NOTHING!
BoilsNever thought I'd see a day Pastor Harold being exposed!I remember my last days attending little falls Christian church and Maude said:"There is a group of business men who give us 70% of their salaries and they(the business men) live off 30%"I thought to myself:"OK!I'm out of here!"I tell you,that woman loves money.Andand like one excellent teacher would say:"She got dollar signs popping out of her eyes."
Sure are a lot of wolves out there and that makes it difficult to find the truth.Anyone heard of L.RaySmith?What do you think about his website and his teachings?www.bible-truths.com